- When DANNY BLOOM asked the OPEN THREAD at Judith Curry's very good blog CLIMATE ETC, they replied as follows:
- QUESTION: Could I ask readers here if they have heard about my pioneering work
about “polar cities” for survivors of climate chaos 30 generations
from now and that the time to start discussing them and planning and
even pre-siting them might be now, as there is still time to prepare?
see my work at http://pcillu101.blogspot.com or google the term,
“polar cities” – and wiki also has page. It’s a bit CLI FI, my work,
and I produced two books already on Amazon, a novel titled POLAR CITY
RED, well reviewed in the Alaska media, and a nonfiction history of
polar cities, POLAR CITY DREAMING. go look and comment pro and con. I
am most interested in feedback, and all POV welcome. – Danny Bloom,
- I just love it every time I confuse you Danny with Steve Bloom. Excellent conversations I’ve had with the wrong one in mind.=============
- I speculate about the distant future sometimes. What would a 1000+ ppm world look like in 2500 AD? Would sea-level be well on its way to rising 70 meters? Would tropical areas still be habitable with 35 C oceans and steam-bath climates, and if not, how would evacuation take place, or would worse things happen to those populations. Would there be hypercanes? Where would the food sources be? What would the energy sources be? What about fresh water supply? Would acidification lead to ecological disaster in the oceans? The fact that polar latitudes have smaller areas than lower latitudes and that 70% of the world population lives within 100 meters of sea-level may mean population crowding and less area where food can be grown, especially in the southern hemisphere as people escape to higher ground and higher latitudes. This is an interesting area for cli-fi, for sure. A 350-400 ppm world in 2500 AD would look more friendly from an environmental viewpoint.
- Yew quote:
‘Clive Hamilton [see below last comment here] shows that the climate problem is now primarily
a question of social science: of psychology and political
economy.’
Say, I’d go along with that. :)
Hmm , though I am a smidgeon worried about ‘the pause’
and the present cold spell in the UK. - ==================
- Not so much a joke as a very imaginative response to last decade’s fear of a boiling earth. I commend Danny to your attention, but feel sure we’ll all be squished metropolitanly together toward the Equator long before Danny’s utopic visions come to pass.=======
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- Beth
Good grief. What with our Govt busily shoving up energy prices whilst the UK temperatures plummet, and this guy promoting Polar cities, it is difficult to know how to keep our sanity.
Has the world lost all sense of perspective and context?
tonyb
- Yup, more geology and theometry.
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Madness …yes! (
Re Long term prediction, looks like Danny needs ter read
Taleb’s ‘Black Swan’ … but I predict he won’t. )
Beth the serf and so on. - True geniuses appear on the most Northern and most Southern horizons.
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- RE: '': Could I ask readers here if they have heard about my pioneering work
about “polar cities” for survivors of climate chaos 30 generations
from now and that the time to start discussing them and planning and
even pre-siting them might be now, as there is still time to prepare?” 30 generations? About 900 years? I haven’t yet checked your link, but I’ve said before that at any time in human history, predictions of the world 90-100 years hence would have been wildly wrong, we have no capacity to make sensible or useful predictions over the time-frames you mention, and it would surely be mad to put resources now into a fantasy 2900 AD.
If you want to do it as speculative fiction, that’s another matter, but it would have no policy relevance.